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Epiphone les paul standards; sexy or sucky?
Topic Started: Sep 20 2008, 12:16 AM (274 Views)
Jakk_Locke	Sep 20 2008, 12:16 AM Post #1
Member Posts: 30 Group: Members Member #8,840 Joined: September 18, 2008	I'm thinking of buying a les paul. thng is i haven't got a mssively huge budget for a gibso, so im going from an epi version Im thinking of the Epi les paul standard, but are they any good? I'd imagine one of you guys owns at least one or two on this frum, so i figure you guys would be best to ask haha. Id be after something this colour and price range, although i can strech a bit further Epiphone Les Paul standard
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monwobobbo	Sep 20 2008, 12:36 AM Post #2
Posts: 599 Group: Moderator Member #8,625 Joined: June 23, 2008	epi les pauls are generally good guitars (except for the real cheapos) i've tried a couple and they seemed good (not a les paul fan though). PRS has an affordable single cut (LP style) guitar that i really liked.
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Metallon	Sep 20 2008, 08:06 AM Post #3
Member Posts: 50 Group: Members Member #8,784 Joined: August 30, 2008	I own an Epi LP Standard. I think they have a very nice sound, it's really got that rich tone you get from heavy guitars such as the Les Paul. I really like it. It's got some GREAT sustain for such a cheap guitar. Its humbuckers are pretty nice (They're Alnico V's). Depending on what you play, you can get some nice sounds. I usually riff around like mad with the bridge pick-up with 10 on volume and tone, but if you want a sort of... ballsy sound, something less sharp - milky? - then just go with the neck pick-up and solo away. Try rolling back the tone, you get some nice and different sounds, too I mean, for its price, its a great guitar. EDIT: I'll agree with monwobobbo: Epiphone LP Special series are... terrible. I know. I owned one for over a year. Edited by Metallon, Sep 20 2008, 08:07 AM.
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roast	Sep 21 2008, 06:57 PM Post #4
Board Lord Posts: 1,017 Group: Co-Admin Member #59 Joined: September 2, 2006	Metallon Sep 20 2008, 08:06 AM I mean, for its price, its a great guitar. Indeed. For the price, its a fine guitar. Infact, I personally believe, that even if I had enough money to buy a Gibson Les Paul, I wouldnt. I'd get an Epi Les Paul. Why? Because Gibsons are totally overpriced, at least for the Les Pauls. Go for it, It will last you a few years, at the very least. -Mick.
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slicepack	Dec 9 2008, 11:56 AM Post #5
Member Posts: 55 Group: Members Member #8,993 Joined: November 15, 2008	The only Epi LP I have played was a three pickup Black Beauty which was an appalling balsa wood plank. I am will to believe there are better examples out there...
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monwobobbo	Dec 9 2008, 03:25 PM Post #6
Posts: 599 Group: Moderator Member #8,625 Joined: June 23, 2008	slicepack Dec 9 2008, 11:56 AM The only Epi LP I have played was a three pickup Black Beauty which was an appalling balsa wood plank. I am will to believe there are better examples out there... you do repair work and have only tried out one epi? i take it you only have rockstar calibur clients then. the black beauty is supposed to be mahogany with maple top just like gibsons les pauls. why did you compare it to balsa wood? any insight into various guitar woods you can give would be benificial to the board so feel free. Edited by monwobobbo, Dec 9 2008, 03:26 PM.
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voodoorider	Dec 9 2008, 06:43 PM Post #7
Garry Posts: 264 Group: Members Member #8,964 Joined: November 3, 2008	The thing to bare in mind is that for a third of the price of a Gibson Les Paul, you get a guitar much better than a third of the quality of a Gibson Les Paul! They aren't so well finished blah blah but I've played 3 Epiphone Les Pauls and own an Epiphone SG. They are good guitars in that price bracket!
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slicepack	Dec 10 2008, 12:10 PM Post #8
Member Posts: 55 Group: Members Member #8,993 Joined: November 15, 2008	monwobobbo Dec 9 2008, 03:25 PM slicepack Dec 9 2008, 11:56 AM The only Epi LP I have played was a three pickup Black Beauty which was an appalling balsa wood plank. I am will to believe there are better examples out there... you do repair work and have only tried out one epi? i take it you only have rockstar calibur clients then. the black beauty is supposed to be mahogany with maple top just like gibsons les pauls. why did you compare it to balsa wood? any insight into various guitar woods you can give would be benificial to the board so feel free. The guitar I played was terrible. I see that Epiphone claim their bodies are mahogany, and the black beauty is...well..black so I couldn't see, but it felt way too light. I'm probably older than you, but my benchmark for crappy Les Paul copies is the Hondo Les Paul from the early 80s. This BB was much worse. I'm not claiming that it was actually balsa wood - I'm saying the guitar felt light and insubstantial - not unlike balsa wood. It was probably a one-off - I'm not ragging all Epi's. This is just my experience. With regards to my business, perhaps because Epi's are budget instruments, perhaps their owners can't afford to have me work on them. A bit like Kramer owners <cough> As regards to guitar woods - I think Basswood is the most interesting for guitar bodies and I still like the liveliness of a maple fretboard, but it's all subjective - a bit like wine tasting. I like bright and lively rather than the dark moodiness of rosewood and mahogany, which marks me as a Fender rather than Gibson man.
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monwobobbo	Dec 10 2008, 04:43 PM Post #9
Posts: 599 Group: Moderator Member #8,625 Joined: June 23, 2008	hey nick yes your a little older (i'm 47) but not enough to where i don't know what your talking about. Hondo's were some of the worst crap ever, often you could see the plywood layers thru the finish . first act stuff reminds me of Hondo. i'm sure most of us know (or should) that the quality of the wood in a $500 epi isn't going to be the same as a $2500 Gibson. it does crack me up when wood discussions come up and people mention that a lower end guitar is made of mahogany so it must be better. Basswood, wow i think your the first repair guy i've talked to that has said that. my Vineyard strat has a basswood body with a flame maple top and has a great tone to it. what do you think of agathis?
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slicepack	Dec 11 2008, 02:39 PM Post #10
Member Posts: 55 Group: Members Member #8,993 Joined: November 15, 2008	Agathis - It's a cheap alternative to more traditional guitar tone woods, I only believe this because it began to appear on budget and mid-price guitars first, as opposed to featuring on top price hand built guitars...Unlike basswood which first made a big splash with the original Steve Vai Jems. I personally love basswood because to me it's the perfect trade-off between timber density and weight.
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prolife	Dec 21 2008, 10:50 PM Post #11
Member Posts: 25 Group: Members Member #9,084 Joined: December 21, 2008	yamaha do agathis... never tired it though. carefull of the fake epis on ebay. get one from a big supplier. i have a g400 made in korea which isn't far off an sg when pickups are replaced with something better...



prolife	Dec 22 2008, 03:21 PM Post #12
Member Posts: 25 Group: Members Member #9,084 Joined: December 21, 2008	oh wow! i just picked up my variax to compare my gfs mean 90's. acoustically it's very good sounding! actually better than my other guitars. i checked on the line 6 site and it is agathis! http://line6.com/variax/specifications.html (the 300 seies.) so i guess i'd go for one of them pacificas one day. the variax has no real pickups of it's own so i haven't ever heard the wood electrically. but it's very loud when unplugged.



monwobobbo	Dec 22 2008, 04:26 PM Post #13
Posts: 599 Group: Moderator Member #8,625 Joined: June 23, 2008	hey slice actually basswood first appeared in budget models and only gained acceptance when steve vai's sig model used it. Edited by monwobobbo, Dec 22 2008, 04:28 PM.
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slicepack	Dec 26 2008, 11:04 PM Post #14
Member Posts: 55 Group: Members Member #8,993 Joined: November 15, 2008	monwobobbo Dec 22 2008, 04:26 PM hey slice actually basswood first appeared in budget models and only gained acceptance when steve vai's sig model used it. Which budget models?
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monwobobbo	Dec 27 2008, 02:13 AM Post #15
Posts: 599 Group: Moderator Member #8,625 Joined: June 23, 2008	don't know off the top of my head it was over 20 years ago. i believe that some of ibanez's cheaper blazer series guitar were basswood as well as some other asian made cheapies of the time.
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